Illegal Aliens Sue Arizona Rancher

I guess now it’s a crime to defend your own property & protect your family, even from intrusion by criminals who are in this country illegally – what next, a bank robber suing the bank because the hidden dye pack ruined his favorite shirt?

Illegal aliens sue Arizona rancher (world turned upside-down)

If you needed any further evidence that the world is upside-down when it comes to US immigration law, take a look at this:

An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.

Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home. …

Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett’s wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday. …

The article goes on to point out that Barnett has rounded up over 12,000 (yes, you read that right) illegal aliens on his property since 1998.

Helping us get to this point of insanity is, you guessed it, a federal judge.  In this case, Judge John Roll, who rejected a motion by Barnett’s attorney’s to throw the case out because, you know, the plantiffs are ILLEGALS, lacking the rights of US citizens.

So what drove the rancher to the point of “enforcing his own border”?  Read on…

Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.

Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water.

Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil – which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their “clients” to keep them running. …

“This is my land. I´m the victim here,” Mr. Barnett said. “When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back.”

How is this any different from any other citizen holding trespassers (and in this case criminals) until the law arrives?  It’s not.  That’s the point here. 

And given that the government hasn’t been fullfilling it’s function of protecting his life and his property, (which is, after all, the whole purpose of government), he’s more than entitled to do it himself.

But here we have a government, courtesy of an over-abused legal system, doing the exact opposite; putting his property (potentially millions of dollars) and the life he can live if he loses it at risk.

It’s an outrage.

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30 Responses to Illegal Aliens Sue Arizona Rancher

  1. Princess says:

    outrage puts it mildly……..this is disgusting. BEYOND disgusting.

  2. mzkatie says:

    wowww. i’d believe you if you told me this was a joke.

  3. therealgirlscout says:

    Utterly ridiculous! And speaking of stupid…..how about Walmart firing an employee because she asked to see a receipt for a computer some guy was trying to steal. REALLY?? He kicked her and ran out of the store, so she was fired for “trying to stop a shoplifting” which is against store policy! Are they serious? She’s doing her job, asking for a receipt, and gets FIRED? I’ve never been a fan of WalMart and this just confirms it. Now this single mom is out of a job. Screw you, Walmart!!

  4. hybridtalk1 says:

    Obama needs to form an army of counter insurgents made up of The New Black Panthers. They could go into these places, even with news cameras, and give the Illegals a beat down and send them back home. Then when the Illegals try to press charges, AG Holder can dismiss the charges. Problem solved.

  5. therealgirlscout says:

    And what does Obama have to do with Walmart?? You really must get over your obsession of comparing everything that happens in the world to Obama, hybrid. It’s not healthy. But don’t worry. If you get sick from this obsession, Obama’s Health Care Plan will take care of you…….:p

    • HybridTalk says:

      Obama firing without cause of Gerald Walprin as Walmart’s firing without cause an employee.


      Walprin and Walmart both start with the letter “W” too. B^)

      Speaking of Obama care. I saw one of my doctors this week and asked how Obama care would impact him. He said he is going to leave the medical field unless Obama care is repealed. He is waiting for November to see what happens. Believes that within six to eight years there will be a calling for private healthcare after obama care fails, like that kind of government entitlement has where ever it has been tried, and at that point he might enter the medical field again. He is the second doctor of ours who told us they are out if November doesn’t pan out.

  6. HybridTalk says:

    BTW – I wrote Senator Sherrod Brown on Monday and demanded he resign if he was one of those anti-American Congress people who applauded Mexico’s Felipe Calderon’s chastisement of America in general and Arizona in particular. Brown has always been pro-amnesty.

    Today I received his reply. I expected the usual liberal tripe but instead he now says that he is for protecting the borders and enforcing the laws and if I didn’t know better I would have thought this response came from Voinovich. Of course he is fibbing because just a year ago his email responses on immigration were fully supportive of amnesty.

  7. therealgirlscout says:

    Okay, my “moderate liberalism” is showing, but Mr. Calderone can kiss my ass, trying to tell me how to treat his illegal citizens, when he does differently in HIS country, considering illegals.

  8. therealgirlscout says:

    Sorry for the “potty mouth” today – had a bad day at work and everything is really pissing me off! And I get even more cranky when it’s hot and humid.

  9. polarbear20 says:

    OK, looks like I’m gonna have to play ‘devil’s advocate’ on a few points here.

    Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol

    That’s cool and all, but is this guy “Officer Barnett”, “Detective Barnett”, “Inspector Barnett”, Lieutenant Barnett”, etc? Is he any kind of legitimate law enforcement official? If not, he’s what you call a vigilante. Like this:

    16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.

    Hate to break your Wild Wild West fantasy world, but you cannot just stop people, especially unarmed people, at gunpoint. Even most of the ‘self defense’ laws involving guns only apply to armed assailants inside your home. You can’t go around shooting, or threatening to shoot people just for “being on your property”.

    I feel sad that we’ve gotten to such a materialistic, ‘property’ world where some vigilante threatening unarmed people becomes an almost folk hero of the Racist Right and their anti-Hispanic campaign.

    the plantiffs are ILLEGALS, lacking the rights of US citizens.

    Bullshit. Are they not HUMAN? Thus, they have HUMAN RIGHTS, one of which is not to be threatened at gunpoint. So what, that like gives all US citizens a hunting permit to rob foreigners at gunpoint, since they don’t have “US citizen rights”? Bullshit.

    And I know exactly what you will say next, so I’m gonna address it:

    after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home

    He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.

    What? Every single man, woman and child that crossed the border did those things? Bullshit. Sure, there will always be some people who are into vandalizing and crime, but the same thing happens among US citizens too. Once again he is trying to play on your emotions, “boo hoo hoo, I’m the poor property owner being terrorized by illegals,”. The fact is, unless he has smoking gun proof that the 16 people in the lawsuit did anything he claimed in the past, his ass is gonna lose because he threatened to shoot unarmed people.

    • mzkatie says:

      PB: “Bullshit. Are they not HUMAN? Thus, they have HUMAN RIGHTS, one of which is not to be threatened at gunpoint. So what, that like gives all US citizens a hunting permit to rob foreigners at gunpoint, since they don’t have “US citizen rights”? Bullshit.”

      Rob foreigners at gunpoint? You are full of SHIT. You seriously just make shit up in your head, PB.

      What if they were THOUSANDS of effin Teabaggers cutting through YOUR yard, PB???

      Hahahaha. I can only IMAGINE.

      • mzkatie says:

        PB: “I feel sad that we’ve gotten to such a materialistic, ‘property’ world where some vigilante threatening unarmed people becomes an almost folk hero of the Racist Right and their anti-Hispanic campaign.”

        Like I said: LEGIT making SHIT up in your head. Anti-hispanic? Please. This guy is protecting his land & family from ILLEGALS who TRESPASS on his property, regardless of race.

        He would still protet his land & family if these people were from Antarctica.

  10. therealgirlscout says:

    And another thing that pisses me off! Some woman blocked an intersection today when the light turned, because she was on her cell phone and not paying attention. Forget the illegal aliens – I’d like to send every driver on a cell phone across the border…..

  11. Hacksaw says:

    “ OK, looks like I’m gonna have to play ‘devil’s advocate’ on a few points here

    That’s cool and all, but is this guy “Officer Barnett”, “Detective Barnett”, “Inspector Barnett”, Lieutenant Barnett”, etc? Is he any kind of legitimate law enforcement official? If not, he’s what you call a vigilante. Like this:”

    A man has a right to defend his property & family from criminals, by force if necessary.

    “ Hate to break your Wild Wild West fantasy world, but you cannot just stop people, especially unarmed people, at gunpoint. Even most of the ‘self defense’ laws involving guns only apply to armed assailants inside your home. You can’t go around shooting, or threatening to shoot people just for “being on your property”.”

    You most certainly can, what these folks are doing is called “trespassing”, it is against the law and in some cases, you can legally shoot somene for doing it and besides, that’s not the only crime that this guy was a victim of – illegal aliens have broken into his home, stolen and in some cases, destroyed his property and if the cops cannot or will not protect him, then he has the right, nay, the responsibility to protect himself & his family.

    “ I feel sad that we’ve gotten to such a materialistic, ‘property’ world where some vigilante threatening unarmed people becomes an almost folk hero of the Racist Right and their anti-Hispanic campaign.”

    When people who should not even be in this country are breaking into your home, threatening your loved ones & stealing or destroying your property, then you can rightfully pass judgment on this guy and critique how he responds.

    “ Bullshit. Are they not HUMAN? Thus, they have HUMAN RIGHTS, one of which is not to be threatened at gunpoint. So what, that like gives all US citizens a hunting permit to rob foreigners at gunpoint, since they don’t have “US citizen rights”? Bullshit.”

    If they didn’t want to be “threatened”, then they should not sneak into this country & trespass on his property. When you buy or inherit land, you own it and may defend it as you see fit, within the limits of the law and this man has not run afoul of our laws, he’s helping to enforce them as evidenced by the fact that he is yet to be arrested for his actions, or legally ordered to cease them.

    “ And I know exactly what you will say next, so I’m gonna address it:

    He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.

    What? Every single man, woman and child that crossed the border did those things? Bullshit. Sure, there will always be some people who are into vandalizing and crime, but the same thing happens among US citizens too. Once again he is trying to play on your emotions, “boo hoo hoo, I’m the poor property owner being terrorized by illegals,”. The fact is, unless he has smoking gun proof that the 16 people in the lawsuit did anything he claimed in the past, his ass is gonna lose because he threatened to shoot unarmed people.”

    He still has the right to defend his property & protect his family, and if these people who are trespassing on his land are criminals and he treats them as such, justifiably.

  12. Princess says:

    Mr. Calderone can kiss my ass, trying to tell me how to treat his illegal citizens, well well well girly, ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL? really?
    i agree completely, if you can’t come here LEGALLY, then stay the hell HOME
    ahhhh PB, sure, i guess they have human rights (whatever you want to call it) but the don’t have AMERICAN rights. those are ONLY afforded to AMERICANS…………
    just like the mexican’s have MEXICAN rights that are NOT afforded to AMERICANS.
    and again, MOST of this country EXPECTS people to immigrate within the LAW.
    apply for visa, apply for citizenship, become a citizen, pay taxes, support themselves, and SPEAK ENGLISH!

  13. therealgirlscout says:

    Yes, princess, really! Although I do not want illegal aliens abused, he still has no right to tell us how to run our immigration policy! Surprised ya, didn’t I?! LOL

  14. myfoxmystere says:

    I get so tired of hearing the illegals screaming that they’re being picked on by racists! I see firsthand what it’s like having illegals in the community…as a resident of one of the border states, I see the damage that the illegals do to the surrounding communities. Even though I live about 120 miles from the border, the communities that house the illegals look like a third world county, compared to the cities that don’t have as many illegals. I have seen some awful cities in Southern California such as Whittier (LA County), Santa Ana (Orange County), Hawaiian Gardens (LA County – border city to Orange County), Pico Rivera (LA County), Artesia (LA County), and numerous others which have illegal alien gang problems. Every one of these cities look like a third world country when you enter into them.

    The Hispanic folks who are there legally do a tremendous amount of work to make things better, and it shows, even in those ugly cities I mentioned here. You can tell where the good folks live in each of the mentioned cities.

    One thing that the media hides is this: The bill that passed in Arizona is the policy that is supposed to be enforced by the Feds! The Feds are a bunch of wienies with no backbone. That Arizona rancher should not have been sued! The lawyers who initiated the lawsuit are nothing more than crooked ambulance chasers!

  15. Princess says:

    i agree girly, no abuse is necessary……….that’s NOT the way it should be handled.
    just ARREST the ILLEGALS and FORCE them to GO HOME. ALL of them, INCLUDING their anchor babies. it’s THAT simple.
    and if they want to come back, they MUST do it within OUR laws.
    how is it people just don’t GET THIS?

    • polarbear20 says:

      You heard it here first, Princess supports the deportation of AMERICAN citizens.

      Let the illegal immigrants all come here, deport the racists instead. 😀

  16. Princess says:

    well PB, then the ILLEGAL parents have a choice then don’t they? either leave their AMERICAN citizen child BEHIND or take them WITH them.
    the CHILD is an AMERICAN citizen, the PARENT is NOT.
    the CHILD has AMERICAN rights, the PARENT is a CRIMINAL.

    • polarbear20 says:

      And ya, that’s why this issue pisses me the fuck off so much. Be proud, your country helps break up families. Where’s the whole “moral majority family values” thing when it comes to one parent or both parents being deported?

      And I’m tired of hearing the word “criminal”. We’re acting like these people are bank robbers and murderers. They want a better life for their family, is that a crime? If this country is truly a ‘land of opportunity’ and such a great place, we should be helping people to come here, not punishing them for trying. If Joe the Plumber was Jose el Plomero, do you honestly think he would have the balls to go through what these immigrants do? If any of these teabaggers had to make a move like that to make a better life for their family, do you think they would be capable of doing it?

      The fucking teabaggers may claim to “love” this country, but would they be willing to risk their life, risk being thrown in jail to come to this country? I know I’m not usually Mr. Patriotic, but I think the fact people WANT to come here and go to such lengths to do so is something to be proud of. I mean, you don’t hear about large numbers of people who want to emigrate from the US to Mexico or other Latin American countries, or even European nations.

      • hybridtalk1 says:

        PolarCzar – “And I’m tired of hearing the word “criminal”. We’re acting like these people are bank robbers and murderers.”

        Well, that is what normal people call law breakers. They have commited a crime, so we call them law breakers (or members of Congress).

        Sorry the truth makes you feel uncomforable but it is what it is. Maybe we need to have the Liberal immigration policies of Mexico as our policies?
        ———
        PolarCzar – “The (people who love America as it was before Obama and Liberal democrats) may claim to “love” this country, but would they be willing to risk their life, risk being thrown in jail to come to this country?

        Your question is a canard. I reject the premises that is has any part in this conversation. You are unable to tell the difference between legal and illegal citizen. Get that straight then maybe we can move to another subject.

      • mzkatie says:

        I get what you’re saying, PB. I don’t want to throw the 20 year old illegal girl out of America. I don’t want to throw her out because her parents brought her here, 10 years ago, against her will.
        There should be a law to help these children who are brought to America young, stay here.
        They didn’t do anything illegal. They did as their mother told them to.
        I agree with you. I understand what you’re saying. There are bills-in-the-process out there trying to work out the “if’s, and’s, & butt’s.”
        However, the illigals that come to this country, commit murder, rape, or kidnappings… that’s the part I want stopped.

  17. Princess says:

    Legal vs. Illegal

    You have two families: “Joe Legal” and “Jose Illegal.” Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California.

    Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25 per hour with taxes deducted.

    Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15 cash “under the table.”

    Ready? Now pay attention…
    Joe Legal: $25 per hour x 40 hours = $1000 per week, or $52,000 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.

    Jose Illegal: $15 per hour x 40 hours = $600 per week, or $31,200 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.

    Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600 per month, or $7,200 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.

    Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.

    Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500 per month for food, or $6,000 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.

    Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.

    Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200 per month, or $14,400 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.

    Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month federal rent subsidy.
    Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.

    Joe Legal pays $200 per month, or $2,400 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.

    Jose Illegal says, “We don’t need no stinkin’ insurance!” and he still has $31,200.
    Joe Legal has to make his $7,231 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

    Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

    Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

    Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

    Joe Legal’s and Jose Illegal’s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children’s lunches, while Jose Illegal’s children get a government sponsored lunch.

    Jose Illegal’s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal’s children go home.

    Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire
    services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

    Do you get it, now?
    I would have posted this on a new page, but i forgot how to.
    Think about this………………and honestly, does anyone REALLY think that these ILLEGALS BELONG HERE?

    If you vote for or support any politician who supports illegal aliens…You are part of the problem!

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    • polarbear20 says:

      Oh please, another one of those stupid chain emails. (rolls eyes)

      Too bad you’re forgetting one thing: LEGAL citizens also work under the table. Also, if “Jose Illegal” isn’t working under the table, taxes are deducted from his pay. And since he cannot file tax forms, he’s not getting any of that money back as a return or later in life as social security. So Jose is paying money into the system, even more than a legal citizen filing tax returns.

      • hybridtalk1 says:

        But that doesn’t justify illegal criminals being allowed to remain in our country. They are not here legaly. They are law breakers just being here. End of discussion.

  18. Hacksaw says:

    And ya, that’s why this issue pisses me the fuck off so much. Be proud, your country helps break up families. Where’s the whole “moral majority family values” thing when it comes to one parent or both parents being deported?

    I’m not for breaking up the families, I’m for deporting them all. If “mommy” & “daddy” are both illegal aliens & “junior” is only about a year & a half and although technically a U.S. citizen, is unable to even survive, much less support themselves sans their illegal “parents”, then they should all be given a free ride back to the border. (the first time, and if you catch the same ones again, you charge them!)

    What our current system can best be described as is “an incentive” and along with our government’s refusal to secure our southern border, it’s the main reason that yesterday we had 12 million illegals and today we have 20 million.

    And I’m tired of hearing the word “criminal”. We’re acting like these people are bank robbers and murderers. They want a better life for their family, is that a crime? If this country is truly a ‘land of opportunity’ and such a great place, we should be helping people to come here, not punishing them for trying. If Joe the Plumber was Jose el Plomero, do you honestly think he would have the balls to go through what these immigrants do? If any of these teabaggers had to make a move like that to make a better life for their family, do you think they would be capable of doing it?

    Actually PB, all of these illegal aliens are “criminals” by virtue of their breaking our laws to even enter the country, or to overstay their visas, like the 9/11 hijackers did and some of the others are actually murderers, and many more are members of violent gangs who rob or rape people, drive drunk and commit a myriad of other crimes. Besides, a bank robber may want a better life and possess an intense desire to provide for their family, but that doesn’t make it right to shove a firearm in some terrified teller’s face or to shoot some poor working stiff whose job it is to guard the bank or cash filled armored vehicle.

    The fucking teabaggers may claim to “love” this country, but would they be willing to risk their life, risk being thrown in jail to come to this country? I know I’m not usually Mr. Patriotic, but I think the fact people WANT to come here and go to such lengths to do so is something to be proud of. I mean, you don’t hear about large numbers of people who want to emigrate from the US to Mexico or other Latin American countries, or even European nations.

    You may not hear about illegal aliens in Mexico and other countries, but that doesn’t mean there are not any – they are simply treated a lot worse by our neighbors to the south then the illegals that we happen to “discover” in our country and beside new patriot, exactly what is wrong with going through Ellis Island or coming via some other “legal” means? It may take a little longer that way, but then you have much less fear & fewer problems in the good ‘ol U S of A!

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