Cleveland Leads The Way…In Becoming A Police State

That’s right folks.  The city already famous for the bullshit invasion of privacy known as red light cameras and school zone speed traps takes another page out of Orwell’s 1984 and comes up with yet another entrapment device.   This time it’s “automatic license plate scanners”.    Of course it’s all under the “protect and serve” guise of it helps us fund stolen vehicles and missing kids.    Yeah right!!   There’s not that many stolen vehicles well, ever, to justify this and as for the missing kids.   Well, that just encourages kidnappers to ditch their own vehicle even more.    As always it’s a case of freedom/privacy vs. security and how much you’re willing to give up of one for another.   Unfortunately there are too many people out there willing to sell away every one of their rights for “safety and security”.

And best of all, it’s stimulus money wasted on this invasion of privacy!!

http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/automatic-license-plate-readers-coming-to-northeast-ohio

It’s worth a read for the obviously cop written comment of if it saves just one kid, it’s worth it.    Yeah, keep telling yourself that, officer!! 😀

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21 Responses to Cleveland Leads The Way…In Becoming A Police State

  1. princess says:

    red light cameras and school zone speed traps
    “automatic license plate scanners”

    awwww PB, these are just electronic versions of what police do all the time.

    they catch people blowing off red lights, speeding in school zones & check license plates ALL the time.

    why the big friggin deal? if you’re not doing anything wrong, there’s nothing to hide.

    • polarbear20 says:

      OK, Officer Princess!! 😀

      these are just electronic versions of what police do all the time.

      And that’s exactly what’s wrong with it. They can rake in millions of dollars without doing any work at all. If you want to catch speeders, red light runners; put down the donut, get back in your bacon car and catch them the old fashion way.

      why the big friggin deal? if you’re not doing anything wrong, there’s nothing to hide.

      Number one, invading people’s privacy is always a “big friggin deal”. Number two, when it’s invaded for financial gain, it’s an even bigger deal!! Let’s see, I’m sure people are smoking pot or underage drinking in their houses. Let’s put cameras there too so cops can bust up parties and catch more people. Since cops do that stuff anyway, why not have camera surveilance assist?? Same difference!!!

      What a shame. The blue mafia found another way to make assloads of money, and you don’t care. I’ll bet if Obama wanted to scan license plates or whatever, you’d be saying something different!! 😉

  2. myfoxmystere says:

    You know something Polar Bear, I’m with you on this one to quite an extent! Red Light Cameras have been abused as revenue generators in some cities across the nation! A few years ago, I was approaching a green left turn arrow at an intersection in the crime ridden city of Santa Ana California – the county seat for Orange County California. I was slowing down to make the turn, when the light turned yellow. To my dismay, the city shortened the left turn yellow light to barely 3 seconds in a 45mph zone! To stop safely in a 45 zone, you need at least 3.9 seconds on a yellow light, according to Cal-Trans. They used a loop-hole that allows a city to time its yellow warning on turn lights to the minimum length of 3 seconds. I didn’t know about the minimum yellow lengths at the time, and got ticketed at the photo enforced intersection. Santa Ana California has the highest number of photo enforced intersections in Orange County California (20 at the moment). In fact, they got in trouble last year, when it turns out they broke the laws regarding photo enforcement. Whenever an intersection in California gets a new camera, the city is supposed to give out warning citations for the first 30 days. Santa Ana only gave a public warning when they started enforcing intersections, and they only gave a 24 day notice. As soon as they added new intersections, they didn’t give out 30 day warning notices; they cited everyone who got caught at newly enforced intersections, yours truly included! As a side note, the intersection where I got cited is no longer enforced with a Red Light Camera…the city lost money on that intersection after a short while! The company that helps enforce the program is Redflex Traffic Systems — they issue “Snitch Tickets” which say on the back “Do Not Contact The Courts”. I will put a picture of their cameras up in my photo collection here, to see if they’re the ones contracting with Cleveland. By the way, they’re an Australian company with the U.S headquarters in ARIZONA! So I approve of boycotting Redflex!

    • myfoxmystere says:

      Just an update, I added pictures of the Redflex Red Light cameras in my picuter collection. 2 of them were pictures I took in Garden Grove California, and 1 was from the internet. There are 6 cities in Orange County California that use red light cameras, with the California State fines of $461.00 per violation!

  3. therealgirlscout says:

    If this was something Obama had instigated, princess and hybrid would be screaming about socialism, police state, communism, etc. You’re right, pb. Next they will be putting cameras in your home to see if you are smoking or eating too much junk food or smoking pot & Cuban cigars!

  4. princess says:

    hmmmmm great idea PB! it doesn’t matter WHERE something is being done……..illegal is ILLEGAL.
    don’t break the law & you won’t be bothered by a little camera………….LMAO

    and btw, according to the obama administration (thanks to the HHS) NOW each and every ONE of us (except of course the ILLEGALS) will have to, by LAW submit to an “obesity assessment” by 2014.

    as if it’s the governments dammmmed business how fat or not fat someone is. and right behind their “assessments” (based on BMI btw) there will be this:
    oh you can’t eat that, you can’t sit there, you can’t work there, etc etc.

    and the junk food makers? oh they’ll be OUT OF BUSINESS.

    can’t wait for those idiots in congress to GO! this fall

  5. princess says:

    another thing PB. there is NO reasonable expectation of privacy when one is in PUBLIC, on PUBLIC streets. NONE.

    if ya got nothin to hide, then the cameras are no problem.

  6. princess says:

    they will be putting cameras in your home to see if you are smoking or eating too much junk food or smoking pot & Cuban cigars!

    actually girly, you’re close. by 2014 we will ALL have to have an “obesity assesment” based on BMI done by our doctors / clinics at the behest of the obama admin. (ala michelle obama)

    and then they WILL be watching / telling you what to eat, not to eat, what to wear, not to wear, etc etc.

  7. princess says:

    and btw, girly, the city of cleveland is run by who? you’re precious liberal democrats……….just as is this country. (at least until november)

  8. therealgirlscout says:

    Oh please. The Democrats in this city might have screwed up a lot of things, but the cameras would have happened even if Republicans were in office.

  9. princess says:

    you are right girly, i’m not complaining about the cameras………..i think they are a GOOD thing.
    what i was saying was that the democrats ARE slowly wheedling their way into everyone’s lives…………..and limiting their freedoms. (ie: the FAT assessment, oh buy a house you can’t pay for ala the CRA)

    it’s called Social Engineering……………and look what happened to China after over 30 years of that.

    and THAT is ALL a democrat thing…………….

    • polarbear20 says:

      the cameras………..i think they are a GOOD thing.
      what i was saying was that the democrats ARE slowly wheedling their way into everyone’s lives…………..and limiting their freedoms. (ie: the FAT assessment

      What are you saying here? That it’s OK for the cops to use cameras to give every person going 22 in a school zone tickets and make tons of money. But it’s not OK for the government to try to help fat, red meat eating lardasses uhhh, live past 45?

      Hypocrite!! HAHA I don’t agree with either one. While I think the government should encourage healthy lifestyles, I don’t think people should be punished if they choose to be a piece of shit. Just like I think a cop should give someone a speeding ticket if they witness someone speeding and their radar gun confirms it, I don’t think a machine should give every car an automatic ticket.

      it’s called Social Engineering
      and THAT is ALL a democrat thing

      Bullshit. The right wing is just as guilty of trying to “engineer” things. Let’s see, we have the god squad’s campaign against gay marriage, as if it were some crime against humanity. Ever since McRaygun let the “moral majority” into the GOP, they’ve been aligned with people like Raygun’s dingbat wife and the “war on drugs”. They’re trying to “engineer” society into thinking smoking pot is a crime against humanity and it’s such an atrocity if someone drinks a beer before their 21st birthday.

      And I could go on all day. Birth control, abortion, right to die, death penalty, etc.

      • mzkatie says:

        Correction: Valid point, PB.

        Both sides are guilty of this “engineering.” And I agree, I don’t like any of the above.

  10. princess says:

    What are you saying here? That it’s OK for the cops to use cameras to give every person going 22 ummmm YES YES YES.

    the speed LIMIT is 20…….not 22.

    breaking the law is breaking the law PB.

    the social engineering in China is a PRIME example of why government does NOT belong in one’s life.

    they now have a HUGE shortage of marriagable WOMEN of child bearing age. it’s 6 men to every woman…………..simply because over 30 years, they limited people as to how many children they were allowed to have & the value of a boy child was held higher than a girl child. they were even SLAUGHTERING their girl children in the hopes they would get a BOY.

  11. princess says:

    lets take this one thing at a time shall we?
    we have the god squad’s you are an ungrateful crud, GOD gave us this earth & everything ON it because he LOVES us……………
    campaign against gay marriage, as if it were some crime against humanity. it is DIRECTLY AGAINST GOD’S word………..
    “moral majority” into the GOP, and what’s wrong with having MORALS? wow PB
    “war on drugs”. drugs RUIN lives………..and bodies.
    smoking pot is a crime yes it IS PB. and smoking pot is STUPID anyway.
    an atrocity if someone drinks a beer before their 21st birthday. you YOUNGSTERS have proven it time and again, that you CANNOT handle the booze at a young age. take a look at the STATISTICS there PB.

  12. therealgirlscout says:

    “Gay marriage is against God’s word”
    Uh, that’s YOUR God, not EVERYONE ELSE’S God.
    Once again, (broken record here), SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!

    The whole “war on drugs” campaign was a dismal failure. Drug selling and usage has actually increased, proving this “war on drugs” was ineffective.

  13. mzkatie says:

    PB: “Let’s see, we have the god squad’s campaign against gay marriage, as if it were some crime against humanity.”
    Princess: “it is DIRECTLY AGAINST GOD’S word………..”

    Oh, Princess.
    ****N*e*w*s*f*l*a*s*h*!****
    Not everyone has the same god as you.
    Or even has a god at all.

    In the USA (where freedom of religion/nonreligion is protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution), if there is a question about a LAW… the answer to that question will never, ever begin with the word GOD.

    Therefore, in relation to the laws made in this country, your god is irrelevant.

  14. princess says:

    Uh, that’s YOUR God, not EVERYONE ELSE’S God. interesting girly, there is only ONE GOD……….funny how you think there are others……

    Not everyone has the same god as you. katie, there is only ONE GOD.

    if there is a question about a LAW… the answer to that question will never, ever begin with the word GOD. you haven’t read the declaration of independence have you?

    Therefore, in relation to the laws made in this country, your god is irrelevant. no MY GOD, the ONLY GOD is NEVER irrelevant…………NEVER.

    GOD gave us this earth & EVERYTHING on it, including YOU.

  15. therealgirlscout says:

    Yes, princess, their is only one God. But there are MANY religions and everyone does NOT believe the same thing!! That’s what’s great about this country – everyone can believe what they want. You may think your religion or beliefs is the right one, as many other people believe that theirs is the right one. Hence, we cannot make laws according to the God that YOU believe in only. That is why we have SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!!!!
    I know you and all the right wing conservatives want REALLY BAD for all laws to be made according to Christian beliefs, but that’s just not how this country was founded.

  16. mzkatie says:

    When it comes down to it, Princess, I have respect for your religion. I don’t believe a damn word the Bible says, but I acknowledge your religion, just like I acknowledge everyone else’s. That’s not something YOU can say about yourself.

    I find myself siding with Democrats more often than not these days. I can’t relate to people who want to force their religion on others through laws. A person’s faith should be between them & their god. The Land of the Free. Not the Land of the Christians.

    I refuse to not acknowledge other religions than Christianity.
    I refuse to be forced into being a Christian by law.
    I refuse to be anti-secular humanism.
    I refuse to be anti-gay.
    I refuse to be anti-science.
    I refuse to be anti-immigration.
    I refuse to be anti-Democrat.

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